Comments on: Productivity and Cloning in the Spatial Data Industry http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/2009/10/21/productivity-and-cloning-in-the-spatial-data-industry/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:51:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Spatial Isn’t Special « James Fee http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/2009/10/21/productivity-and-cloning-in-the-spatial-data-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-262 Spatial Isn’t Special « James Fee Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:27:07 +0000 http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/?p=271#comment-262 [...] was reading Paul’s blog post last week wondering if he had been putting the Jedi Mind Trick on me the last couple years.  I’d [...] [...] was reading Paul’s blog post last week wondering if he had been putting the Jedi Mind Trick on me the last couple years.  I’d [...]

]]> By: Paul Bissett http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/2009/10/21/productivity-and-cloning-in-the-spatial-data-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-238 Paul Bissett Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:49:30 +0000 http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/?p=271#comment-238 Chris, The public data question is a good one. In theory, one could argue that the data and services have been paid for by taxpayers, so it should be freely distributed without restriction (but with attribution!). This is the model followed by the National Weather Service. The basic premise of this approach is that the secondary receipts through commercial tax collection from <a href="http://www.nws.noaa.gov/sp/internatpolicy.htm" rel="nofollow"> the reuse of the data will exceed the cost recovery receipts from attempting to license public data</a>. In addition, from a public policy standpoint - free, but attributed, use of the data enables greater “crowdsourcing” efforts that may generate better products for the public entity to consume, at a lower total production cost. However, at the local level this “theory” can be difficult to enact because these public GIS efforts cost money. I also have a sense that pride and feelings of “ownership” in the local data products may cause some additional conflicts. Chris,
The public data question is a good one. In theory, one could argue that the data and services have been paid for by taxpayers, so it should be freely distributed without restriction (but with attribution!). This is the model followed by the National Weather Service. The basic premise of this approach is that the secondary receipts through commercial tax collection from the reuse of the data will exceed the cost recovery receipts from attempting to license public data. In addition, from a public policy standpoint – free, but attributed, use of the data enables greater “crowdsourcing” efforts that may generate better products for the public entity to consume, at a lower total production cost.

However, at the local level this “theory” can be difficult to enact because these public GIS efforts cost money. I also have a sense that pride and feelings of “ownership” in the local data products may cause some additional conflicts.

]]> By: Chris McClain http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/2009/10/21/productivity-and-cloning-in-the-spatial-data-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-235 Chris McClain Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:44:13 +0000 http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/?p=271#comment-235 Paul, Great post and present an interesting a fresh take on this issue. I was wondering how you see Governement entities who create data but are unable to resell their data fitting into to this proposed model. Likewise what about private entities (individuals or company's) who then take this data and resell it with or without adding additional value. Working for a local public water/wasterwater utility that maintains a Enterprise GIS to support both our own needs as well as those of our sister agency the Township proper this is a n issue that we discuss constantly. PS - Never realized how cute and cuddly Adam looked with Georgia gear on. Did you get that pic from his Mom? (Just kiddin' GeoDawg!) Paul,
Great post and present an interesting a fresh take on this issue. I was wondering how you see Governement entities who create data but are unable to resell their data fitting into to this proposed model. Likewise what about private entities (individuals or company’s) who then take this data and resell it with or without adding additional value. Working for a local public water/wasterwater utility that maintains a Enterprise GIS to support both our own needs as well as those of our sister agency the Township proper this is a n issue that we discuss constantly.

PS – Never realized how cute and cuddly Adam looked with Georgia gear on. Did you get that pic from his Mom? (Just kiddin’ GeoDawg!)

]]> By: Adam Estrada http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/2009/10/21/productivity-and-cloning-in-the-spatial-data-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-231 Adam Estrada Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:45:25 +0000 http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/?p=271#comment-231 Hi Paul, In my experience with some of our current customers, as soon as another group hears about the latest and greatest data service that we've published they automatically want to ingest it. This is where the whole "If you build it, they will come" thing came from. Personally, I am the same way...If I come across a public WMS with uber-high resolution imagery, I automatically want to consume it in an application that I am building. I suppose that is why we are all referred to as #geonerds, huh... BTW, it's Georgia *DAWG* not dog ;-) woof, woof, woof... Hi Paul,

In my experience with some of our current customers, as soon as another group hears about the latest and greatest data service that we’ve published they automatically want to ingest it. This is where the whole “If you build it, they will come” thing came from. Personally, I am the same way…If I come across a public WMS with uber-high resolution imagery, I automatically want to consume it in an application that I am building. I suppose that is why we are all referred to as #geonerds, huh…

BTW, it’s Georgia *DAWG* not dog ;-) woof, woof, woof…

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